{"id":11816,"date":"2016-09-09T15:40:00","date_gmt":"2016-09-09T13:40:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/charleroi-pourlapalestine.be\/?p=11816"},"modified":"2020-05-08T20:03:28","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T18:03:28","slug":"ilan-pappe-il-ny-a-pas-besoin-de-paix-en-palestine-mais-de-decolonisation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/charleroi-pourlapalestine.be\/index.php\/2016\/09\/09\/ilan-pappe-il-ny-a-pas-besoin-de-paix-en-palestine-mais-de-decolonisation\/","title":{"rendered":"Ilan Papp\u00e9 : Il n\u2019y a pas besoin de paix en Palestine, mais de  d\u00e9colonisation"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-content mh-clearfix\">\n<figure class=\"entry-thumbnail\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" title=\"pappe-1-copy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Papp\u00e9-1-Copy.jpg\" alt=\"Ilan Papp\u00e9 avec son livre &quot;La propagande d'Isra\u00ebl&quot;\" width=\"346\" height=\"346\"><\/figure>\n<div class=\"pf-content\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-18760 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/DSC01132-Copy-350x262.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/DSC01132-Copy-350x262.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/DSC01132-Copy-174x131.jpg 174w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/DSC01132-Copy-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/DSC01132-Copy-70x53.jpg 70w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/DSC01132-Copy.jpg 462w\" alt=\"dsc01132-copy\" width=\"350\" height=\"262\">C\u2019\u00e9tait un bel apr\u00e8s-midi ensoleill\u00e9 ce dimanche 25. Mais 120 personnes ont choisi de se retrouver \u00e0 l\u2019Universit\u00e9 du Travail de Charleroi pour y rencontrer Ilan Papp\u00e9 et Michel Collon qui pr\u00e9sentaient le livre : <a href=\"https:\/\/boutique.investigaction.net\/fr\/livres\/41-la-propagande-d-israel.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u00ab\u00a0La propagande d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl\u00a0\u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Et elles n\u2019ont pas \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9\u00e7ues : c\u2019\u00e9tait une conf\u00e9rence-d\u00e9bat et des \u00e9changes particuli\u00e8rement int\u00e9ressants. Comme le dit un membre de la Plate-forme :<em> \u00ab&nbsp;De vieux routiers du conflit isra\u00e9lo-palestinien ont confess\u00e9 avoir appris pas mal de choses !&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-18757 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Papp\u00e9-10-Copy-350x273.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Papp\u00e9-10-Copy-350x273.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Papp\u00e9-10-Copy.jpg 444w\" alt=\"pappe-10-copy\" width=\"350\" height=\"273\">Les organisateurs, la<strong> Plate-forme Charleroi-Palestin<\/strong>e et <strong>Investig\u2019Action<\/strong>, soutenus par la <strong>Province du Hainaut<\/strong> en tirent un bilan plus que positif.<\/p>\n<p>Trouvez ici un extrait de l\u2019intervention d<strong>\u2018Ilan Papp\u00e9. <\/strong>Les vid\u00e9os de la conf\u00e9rence se trouvent en bas de l&rsquo;article.<strong><br><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u00ab&nbsp;BDS dit en fait aux Isra\u00e9liens : vous \u00eates en train de violer tous les droits des Palestiniens. C\u2019est un signal tr\u00e8s important. Nous nous battrons pour ces droits humains gr\u00e2ce au boycott, gr\u00e2ce au d\u00e9sinvestissement, gr\u00e2ce aux sanctions. C\u2019est une lutte pacifique pour les droits des gens. Ce que nous voulons, c\u2019est une vie normale, dans un Etat d\u00e9mocratique, o\u00f9 les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s ont \u00e9galement leur place.<\/p>\n<p>On ne doit pas s\u2019\u00e9tonner qu\u2019Isra\u00ebl d\u00e9crit BDS comme antis\u00e9mite, et que tous ceux qui adh\u00e8rent au sionisme, ont du mal \u00e0 accepter BDS.<\/p>\n<p>Accepter BDS, c\u2019est accepter que le sionisme c\u2019est du colonialisme, et c\u2019est accepter qu\u2019il faut viser l\u2019\u00e9tablissement d\u2019un seul Etat d\u00e9mocratique en Palestine. Il n\u2019y a pas d\u2019autre solution. Il n\u2019y a pas un besoin de paix en Isra\u00ebl, il y a un besoin de d\u00e9colonisation.<\/p>\n<p>Et il y a m\u00eame des Palestiniens qui ont du mal avec cette id\u00e9e. Dans les ann\u00e9es 90, quand nous consultions des Palestiniens sur BDS,&nbsp; ils&nbsp; voulaient d\u2019abord donner une chance au processus de paix.<\/p>\n<p>Mais c\u2019est tout \u00e0 fait clair qu\u2019il n\u2019y a pas de chance pour un processus de paix et qu\u2019il n\u2019y pas de chance pour un changement de l\u2019int\u00e9rieur de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 isra\u00e9lienne. Nous n\u2019avons pas d\u2019autre option.&nbsp; La seule option que nous avons, c\u2019est de dire \u00e0 Isra\u00ebl : vous n\u2019\u00eates pas le bienvenu en tant qu\u2019\u00c9tat d\u00e9mocratique, civilis\u00e9, \u00e0 cause de ce que vous fa\u00eetes aux Palestiniens en tant qu\u2019\u00eatres humains. \u00bb<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Des \u00e9changes fructueux aussi avant et apr\u00e8s la conf\u00e9rence autour des stands.&nbsp; Et une fois de plus nous \u00e9tions ravis d\u2019accueillir nos amis n\u00e9erlandophones de <strong>Palestina Solidariteit<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Un projet est lanc\u00e9 pour un voyage de jeunes en <strong>Palestine<\/strong> et une quinzaine de personnes se sont d\u00e9j\u00e0 inscrites sur place. Et \u00e9videmment, de nouvelles photos ont \u00e9t\u00e9 prises pour la campagne <strong><em>\u00ab&nbsp;Je boycotte Isra\u00ebl&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em><\/strong>, avec la participation de <strong>Michel Collon<\/strong> et d\u2019<strong>Ilan Papp\u00e9.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tout cela se passait dans le beau lieu qu\u2019est l\u2019<strong>Universit\u00e9 du Travail de Charleroi<\/strong>, d\u00e9cor\u00e9 pour l\u2019occasion d\u2019un immense drapeau palestinien.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-18763 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ilan-Pappe-Michel-Collon-Charleroi-25-9-2016-65-Copy-350x252.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ilan-Pappe-Michel-Collon-Charleroi-25-9-2016-65-Copy-350x252.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ilan-Pappe-Michel-Collon-Charleroi-25-9-2016-65-Copy.jpg 481w\" alt=\"ilan-pappe-michel-collon-charleroi-25-9-2016-65-copy\" width=\"350\" height=\"252\"><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-18761 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ilan-Pappe-Michel-Collon-Charleroi-25-9-2016-571-Copy-350x233.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ilan-Pappe-Michel-Collon-Charleroi-25-9-2016-571-Copy-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ilan-Pappe-Michel-Collon-Charleroi-25-9-2016-571-Copy.jpg 519w\" alt=\"Ilan Papp\u00e9 d\u00e9dicace son libre &quot;La propagande d'Isra\u00ebl&quot;\" width=\"350\" height=\"233\"><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_18754\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18754\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-18754 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Papp\u00e9-2-Copy.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 346px) 100vw, 346px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Papp\u00e9-2-Copy.jpg 346w, https:\/\/www.pourlapalestine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Papp\u00e9-2-Copy-150x150.jpg 150w\" alt=\"Ilan Papp\u00e9 et Michel Collon\" width=\"346\" height=\"346\">\n<figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-18754\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Michel Collon et Ilan Pappe<br><br><a href=\"https:\/\/charleroi-pourlapalestine.be\/index.php\/tag\/ilan-pappe\/\">Trouvez ici d&rsquo;autres articles d&rsquo;Ilan Papp\u00e9 ou le concernant, publi\u00e9s sur ce site<\/a><\/figcaption>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Voyez le reportage film\u00e9 ci-dessous.&nbsp; Merci \u00e0 Palestina Solidariteit d\u2019avoir contribu\u00e9 \u00e0 la r\u00e9alisation des vid\u00e9os.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"vimeo-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/189441509\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"vimeo-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/189547502\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ilan Papp\u00e9 : Accepter BDS, c\u2019est accepter que le sionisme c&rsquo;est du colonialisme et qu\u2019il faut viser l\u2019\u00e9tablissement d\u2019un seul Etat d\u00e9mocratique en 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